Birkhead to Virgie: I'm Not Sharing Dannielynn!

1411. Re: "Larry Birkhead on Good Terms with Howard K. Stern" (“Access Hollywood”)

Well, I have posted all along, that the "Stern Redemption-Campaign" would start soon, but I must admit... I was sure blind-sided by THIS.

I'm re-posting my questions.

Is it possible that Larry is just being kind to Howard until he gets his baby out of the Bahamas?

Is Virgie upset with Larry because she isn’t allowed to see her grandchild? Virgie should be able to visit and HOLD her granddaughter. WHY NOT?!

Is Virgie is upset because the baby is STILL with Howard?

Is the trust gone between Virgie and Larry?

Does Virgie feel that Larry doesn't care about the Inquest for Daniel? Howard is under suspicion and it doesn‘t look good for the Inquest investigation (if there IS going to be one) to see Larry and Howard so CHUMMY.

WHAT'S going on? What has happened between Virgie and Larry that is documented?

Posted at 11:23PM on Apr 18th 2007 by The Observer

1412.
The Observer,

I always enjoy your posts and observations.

I have been in the midst of all that has happened in reading, and in
watching all the media.

To respond to your questions, I have to say that as much as I
was all for Larry, and trying to believe his intentions were pure,
I now am having serious concerns. First, his total disloyalty
to Mrs. Arthur, who supported him and who was warm and
cordial to him. She said she just wanted to be the grandmother
based on the belief that Larry would honor their agreement.
Of all the players she has been the most mistreated, the most
maligned, and she is the ONLY person who was related to the
deceased.

I don't know this for sure, but I think Larry started making deals
with Howard back when Opri wouldn't accept that, so he dropped
Opri, or she dropped him. If he cared anything whatsoever about Anna and Daniel, I find his now partnership with Stern, and his cold, heartless
attitude toward Anna's mother, deplorable and horrid. It is possible
that Howard Stern's saying he wouldn't challenge custody was
based on his agreements with Larry, agreements that Howard
and Ron Rale called "settlements".

I am sure Virgie Arthur is very distressed at the thought that Larry
is now flattering Howard Stern to the media, but of course she
doesn't want Anna's baby in the house with Howard.
Would you? And, it is quite incredible that Howard is STILL in the
house from which he was evicted many times, don't you agree?
Even one iota of pride would preclude someone's staying there
under those circumstances, you would think!

About the trust between Virgie and Larry, she trusted and believed in
him, and he betrayed that trust totally. He has not lived up to his
highest self in this regard, and he has taken the low road.

About the Inquest, I may be wrong, but I do believe the Inquest will
proceed. There are forty witnesses, and if what I heard the nannies
say, it should all be interesting. It would have been nice if Larry
could have remembered the priorities involved , and his behavior isn't all
that noble, regarding Anna's mother, and all things considered.

Posted at 12:10AM on Apr 19th 2007 by Suzanne

1413. http://www.etonline.com/celebrities/news/47810/index.html
In the interview, Larry says he has found an unlikely ally in Anna's companion, HOWARD K. STERN, who fought him over establishing paternity. Larry even compliments Howard on assisting him with fatherly duties.

"It seems unlikely but he's been a great help," Larry says. "He's just really tuned me in, because he's been with Dannielynn the last several months. He knows her likes and dislikes, and he's kind enough to help me out.


HOW LOW CAN YOU GET? ANNA & DANIEL DEAD...ANNA DRUGGED WHILE PREGNANT & NANNY'S SAYING STERN DRUGGING BABY DUE TO CRYING & HE IS CHUMMING WITH STERN NOW..........
I REMOVE 100% OF MY SUPPORT FROM LARRY. GET THE DIRT ON HIM & REMOVE THAT BABY TO SAFETY VERGIE.............
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE...............INSANE..........I'M IN SHOCK.
LARRYSTERN DO NOT DESERVE THIS CHILD.

PERSONALLY I THINK LARRY IS WORSE NOW THAN STERN & THAT SAYS A LOT.
ABSOLUTELY TURNS MY STOMACH.

THE BABY IS NOT SAFE WITH LARRY EITHER........

SAVE THIS CHILD VERGIE OR BAHAMAS............

BEGINNING TO BELIEVE THE STORY OF STERN & LARRY & ANNA JUST WANTING LARRY TO FATHER HER BABY.......NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE........

Posted at 1:02AM on Apr 19th 2007 by HOPINGVERGIEGETSTHEBABY

1414. Hi Suzanne ~ Thank you soo much for answering my post. You are very SWEET. I always read your posts and MichelleL's posts. We have quite a few thoughtful people on this blog and I miss them when they don’t show up for a few days. I enjoy every “flavor” of support-post for Dannielynn, Larry, Virgie, Anna, Daniel and for JUSTICE being served (if ever).

I agree with you, that Larry may be going too far, in his relationship with Stern. I feel that it WILL compromise Daniel's Inquest. I hope that the Bahama courts ignore the dynamics between Larry and Howard. Larry is a desperate father and Stern is a degenerate. I hope Larry will not compromise HIMSELF ...his PRINCIPALS. I'm trying to reserve judgment Stern leaves the house or the baby gets off of that island.

I thought that Larry felt that Opri was too bold and brassy and was putting out the wrong message (no real basis for this opinion) . I was hoping that they had BOTH agreed that there would be NO “deals or terms” with Stern. Did you see the photograph of Opri walking VERY close to Stern around the time of Anna’s funeral …just the two of them? I didn’t think that was necessary for her to be caught on camera alone with Stern and both of them smiling. Gees.

It seems from the Access Hollywood interview that's in print, that Larry isn't honoring the Gag Order still in effect in the Bahamas. WE aren't supposed to know what is going on between Larry and Virgie ...are we?

I thought that Virgie simply wanted Stern out of that house. G'ma would be able to take care of the baby with Larry and the new Nanny. HKS could have SUPERVISED visitation, and they would all live happily ever after!

Posted at 1:27AM on Apr 19th 2007 by The Observer

1415. Hi Suzanne ~ What I MEANT to say is... "PRINCIPLES" ...as in ETHICS. haha
...............
I agree with you, that Larry may be going too far, in his relationship with Stern. I feel that it WILL compromise Daniel's Inquest. I hope that the Bahama courts ignore the dynamics between Larry and Howard. Larry is a desperate father and Stern is a degenerate. I hope Larry will not compromise HIMSELF ...his PRINCIPALS. I'm trying to reserve judgment Stern leaves the house or the baby gets off of that island.

Posted at 2:21AM on Apr 19th 2007 by The Observer

1416. Re... #1420 by HOPINGVIRGIEGETSTHEBABY

I think lots of public officials are “in cahoots” with Stern! He has LOTS of money and a phenomenal wage-earning capability. He can generate millions of dollars from the image-likeness, etc. of Anna Nicole Smith.

He may think he will have a cut of the Marshall money, also.

I guess my point in saying this is, I hope we can count on O'Quinn to save the day!!

Posted at 2:23AM on Apr 19th 2007 by Shirley

1417.
To: The Observer, Shirley, and HopingVirgieGetsTheBaby,

This has been a long hard road in view of all that has transpired
since Daniel's untimely and suspicious death. It is very difficult to
confront evil to this extent.

I look at all factors, and I certainly don't lend any credence whatsoever
to the televised venom spitting and angry ET filming of Anna trashing
her mother while Howard said from the side "what do you want to tell
her". It is clear that in his convincing Anna that her mother thought SHE
had killed Daniel, instead of who she REALLY thought killed him, that
he had the script, and Anna read it. Only the most naive would be
taken in by that ploy. I am sure Anna was a handful when she was a
teenager, and she barreled right on through life the same way, but
everybody does the best they can with their children. I do weary of
hearing the bashing from people who fall for the bad press generated
by Howard Stern against Mrs. Arthur. Clearly the more people hate
her the more they will forget about who is the real villain here, the
person who caused all this tragedy and sadness for all concerned.
Oh, except for Larry, who is now basking in the light of the camera
with this tiny baby who isn't even allowed to see her grandmother.

In essence, I am going to have to say that Larry has lost my support
and respect. He seems immature and incapable of doing the right
thing now, and is in the clutches of Stern. If Larry has turned the
baby's holdings (if any with the unscrupulous behavior) over to Stern,
then Larry has taken leave of his senses.

I also have to say, and I don't mean this in a judgmental way, but
Larry seems to be too concerned with self, his appearance, and his
popularity with the public, which as we all know can turn. The support
he got with cheers, and the support of Mrs. Arthur, were because it
was thought he was a good person. That is changing at a rapid rate.
Larry's having a nose job and possibly dying his hair blonde, indicates that
he very occupied with his appearance, and all this posing with the
baby for tabloids would indicate that he is way too involved with a
dizzying enjoyment of thinking he is the darling of the public. He
isn't. The baby, Danielynn, is the one loved by a public
devastated at the loss this baby has suffered, at the fact that it is
a miracle she is even living after the drugs Anna was given during
the pregnancy and with being sedated after being born. Maybe
I am wrong, but to me there is just something ultimately disgusting
about Larry Birkhead's "taking up with" Howard Stern, after the way
Anna was treated, and after the deaths of Anna and Daniel. Maybe
I am too concerned, but I see no good future for the baby with
Larry now, especially since Stern, who tried to stop the DNA and is
still doing sinister and inappropriate things, is in the picture. Larry's
churlish behavior and his failure to honor his commitment to
Anna's mother has placed Mrs. Arthur in the position of having to
depend upon the court systems to do the right thing, since Larry is
apparently in cahoots with Stern.

So, that leaves us with only one safe place for the baby. This baby
should be with her loving grandmother and her kind and supportive
husband of over twenty years. Larry should visit and the baby could
spend vacation time with him with his family. He has a really nice
sister who could be there to help with the child when she visited in
Kentucky. California, with the fast pace, and the life style there, is not a
place for this baby. This baby would be with the nanny while Howard
and Larry, and others, would be hanging out (in gay bars?)
living a fast life, and the baby would not get the nurturing she
desperately needs and will require. Howard should have been out of the
picture, all things considered, and we will wait to see what the
Inquest reveals.

Howard Stern's true character was revealed when he stood at Anna's
funeral, which he sold to ET, and used his speaking time to bash
Anna's mother. Then not letting her approach the baby when she
had the court appointed visit to the baby, was despicable. I have
yet to see one good thing about Howard, who has been fined for
filing a malicious and frivolous lawsuit, and has now filed another one
against John O'Quinn. Of course, that is nothing when you consider
the true aspects of all that has happened.

So, I am just musing about all that has happened here, and grieving
over Daniel more than anything, because he was in a terrible plight,
filled with anxiety, fear and worry to the extent he talked with the PI,
but his fears were realized when he died shortly thereafter.

Now my total focus is on Baby Danielynn and her safe and happy
future. I think you share my concern for this child, who needs our
support. I think we should put lurid distortions of the truth and lies
aside, and doing that, and looking at what is now going on with Larry
and Howard, and the baby's welfare, we have to consider that the
baby's best interests will be served with Virgie Arthur.

Those are my present thoughts, and I am interested in the thoughts
of you three!

Posted at 9:11AM on Apr 19th 2007 by Suzanne

1418. The point that everyone is missing, we are only the on lookers, we have no say as to what is going to happen, all of the criticizing and cynical people are going to be very disappointed when it is all said and done.

Posted at 9:21AM on Apr 19th 2007 by J

1419. Suzanne-What has happened last couple days shocked me about Vergie.She is now not just wanting to be a Grandmother as most folks expected her to simply want.Her lawyer is not working for free and she has per her a lawyer bill for 700k.She wants Larry and her to have joint custody -she is Grandma not his wife!!!! She has not mentioned lately about seeing the baby ,but rather I want to be in charge and I want it in writing that if you die I get full control of everything.So this would be backwards to any law in USA and the judge in Bahamas wants a decision by Friday which is also crazy.Howard wants 12.5 million a year as trustee and Vergie wants that money to become sole trustee.My thing is get out of Bahamas -Florida blew it try things in California that is Larry's home state cause I want what you and most folks want and thought based on prior testimony that no one wanted any money but that was a lie! I concur also if I was Larry I would not trust either one of them.To me it looks like a no win situation for Larry in Bahamas as both Howard and now Vergie and there lawyers sure seem to have more influence with the courts than he does.I also think what kind of Grandma puts posters on telephone poles and started this gay rumor.So happiness of Larry and the baby should be goal of Stern and Vergie and all the Lawyers-but now it is money and greed which angers me ! I saw the baby and she is adorable and really a shame that this thing drags on.It to me is like if you put Larry with baby on a blanket and a bunch of Buzzards are circling over head.Someone needs to shoot them in the butt and get on with life.Of course if Anna was alive Grandma would not be in picture at all.So now I most definitely am wondering about some of the things Anna said about her mother may be true!

Posted at 5:27PM on Apr 19th 2007 by Faye Mitchell

1420. Comments made are excellent by all! Unfortunately all three players have Lawyers that are filing lawsuits,appeals in the Bahamas that I think will drag on for months.Yes we are onlookers but think of all times from top of society to the bottom echelon that when money comes into play all sense of Justice goes to h___ in a hand basket! Let us all face the facts that I do not see even court system putting the baby as the first priority.I see just as someone has mentioned before about our politicians and the ,judges in Florida that they did and do a lot of talking but other than going to Hollywood to become a TV Judge or smoking happy smoke on a park bench simply passed the buck to a foreign country to pass judgement on American citizens which is the stupid part of this whole debate.I fail to see why the father can not go get a passport for the Baby and return to USA .I for one see no sense of urgency which is obvious with Bahamian judge moves date 30 days out,dictates that this is way is going to be .You can take all the Lawyers ,and all the folks involved and common sense dictates that none will stop as long as some 400 million is being dangled on a string and a million here and there by media for stories, pictures etc.So all you ladies are correct! Until such time Larry gets actual custody -and returns to USA nothing is going to happen anytime soon in Bahamas!

Posted at 11:59AM on Apr 19th 2007 by irnotdumb

1421. Irnotdumb-Larry obviously is young and impressionable which I think may be his problem.I think security is going to be expensive as you have a baby may inherit a lot of money.I would simply like her to lead a normal life.It does not sound right for Vergie to say "In event of your death " um that does not sound correct! I do not like baby at the mansion but security of the baby is important.I think Larry needs to take control and quit going to meetings etc with Vergie or Howard! I think as you mentioned Florida did not do a very good job -so yes we are all watching but seems wrong and I agree that we as Americans let other countries tell us what to do as I thought by now a Federal court would of put a halt to this nonsense.I can see where Larry is coming from as he wants to be with the baby and long as he does not have custody and stuck in Bahamas he is trying to get along for babies sake.Remember the last name now is still Stern and not Birkhead! When name is changed and he is in writing he will I think have more to say about Vergie and Stern! At least I hope I am right!

Posted at 12:29PM on Apr 19th 2007 by Faye Mitchell

1422. Now my total focus is on Baby Danielynn and her safe and happy
future. I think you share my concern for this child, who needs our
support. I think we should put lurid distortions of the truth and lies
aside, and doing that, and looking at what is now going on with Larry
and Howard, and the baby's welfare, we have to consider that the
baby's best interests will be served with Virgie Arthur.

Those are my present thoughts, and I am interested in the thoughts
of you three!

Posted at 9:11AM on Apr 19th 2007 by Suzanne


100% WITH YOU SUZANNE....WE NEED TO PUT OUR VIEWS & CONCERNS OUT FOR BAHAMAS TO SEE. TMZ DISGUSTS ME TOO. ONCE WE SEE JUSTICE SERVED WE SHOULDN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING TMZ OR ANNA RELATED. LET STERNLARRY GO BACK INTO THE GAY BARS....

Posted at 12:59PM on Apr 19th 2007 by HopingVirgieGetsTheBaby

1423. I can see where Larry is coming from as he wants to be with the baby and long as he does not have custody and stuck in Bahamas he is trying to get along for babies sake.Remember the last name now is still Stern and not Birkhead! When name is changed and he is in writing he will I think have more to say about Vergie and Stern! At least I hope I am right!

Posted at 12:29PM on Apr 19th 2007 by Faye Mitchell


I WOULD HAVE GIVEN LARRY THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ON THAT UNTIL I HEARD HE WENT ON TV SAYING NOT TO BLAME STERN THAT ANNA DID IT TO HERSELF.
THAT WAS WHEN MY SUPPORT LEFT.
HE KNOWS DAM GOOD & WELL WHAT HAPPENED TO ANNA & DANIEL % THE FACT THE BABY WAS DRUGGED BEFORE & AFTER BIRTH. NO EXCUSE IN HIS CRAP & THE BABY IS IN DANGER WITHSTERNLARRY.

Posted at 1:08PM on Apr 19th 2007 by HopingVirgieGetsTheBaby

1424. To All who Responded,

Thank you for your great comments. I learned something new, and I was also happy that some of you appreciate my thoughts. I had no IDEA that Larry went to the press saying that not to blame Howard because Anna brought it all on herself. He has fallen to an all time low. Did Anna cause Daniel's death? NO. The last moments she had with Daniel they were laughing together, happy and holding the baby. Daniel was fine, and was watching TV while Anna, who was worn out from having the baby, slept. Did Anna want to die? NO, and that was spun to Perper, who bought everything Howard and the so called "Doctor" said, and repeated their comments . I don't know who was worse, Bumphead, Crybaby or the pot smoker.

Florida is the laughing stock of the nation for that fiasco. However, if that is what Larry said about the mother of his baby, especially since she suffered
so for days before her death, was afraid, knew what happened to Daniel,
and she died. Did she cause that? Well, I begin to see why Anna didn't
want Larry to have access to the baby. Maybe she sensed that Larry was
lacking in judgment and in character. We are learning every day. Now
Howard is Larry's hero? Well, now we know that Howard has had Larry
sign agreements. How sickening. You mentioned the money, and it turns
my stomach to think of those posed pictures of Larry with that precious
baby. I realize that some will think that was cute, but not to me. I
see it as victimizing and using that baby for money, the same way
Howard Stern exploited Anna for every penny he could get, even when
she was doped, could barely talk, and looked horrible. I can't
even stand to look at Larry now, and never could stand to look at
Howard, since he seems to be evil incarnate.

I admire and respect John O'Quinn, and his excellent reputation and great mind must have Howard Stern and his bunch of furtive looking associates eaten up with envy and resentment. John O'Quinn stands tall, and his motto is that he protects the powerless against the powerful. I hope he tears that
bunch up in court and files a countersuit against them. Virgie Arthur should be suing for the slander against her by one of Howard's attorney's on national TV, at which time she then said, "well I don't know if that is true",
but the damage was done, since I have heard some of the mindless idiots repeating it as truth. It was not true. I know Larry has his followers, and I was one of them. Now my hopes are centered on Virgie Arthur. She struggled in the 60's to survive when women weren't paid a living wage, and her good mind and credibility allowed her to serve as an honored police officer for 28
years. She, as many have, had several failed marriages when young,
and was widowed once, but she has a wonderful husband now of over 20
years, who has stood by her and who is kind and well respected. They
are the perfect age now to care for and to love and protect that child
24-7. They are and will be at home where they can give that child the
nurturing she desperately needs. The more I have contemplated this,
and witnessing the outrageous decisions and behavior of Larry Birkhead
(sorry supporters) the more afraid I am for Danielynn in his custody.
This child is not a pinup. She is not a pawn, and she is not a money
maker. She survived through bad treatment, through Anna's drugs
before birth, and was sedated as an infant. This child deserves to be
with good and strong people who won't tolerate any garbage nor bad
treatment of this child. This baby was said not to be for sale, but
evidently she has been.

Bahamian Courts and Judicial system, we are depending upon you
now. This baby is on hard times, as she was even before she was
born. Her grandmother has spent a fortune to insure her ability to
give this child the protection and the life that she deserves. This
child's grandmother has not been allowed to even hold or spend time
with her flesh and blood grandchild. Nobody with ethics nor
character would keep a grandmother from her grandchild,
especially when the child's mother and brother have suddenly died mysteriously.

There is a lot that must be dealt with in the deaths, and an Inquest
is pending, but it has been delayed. This child should be in a safe place where she will be loved, with her Grandmother.

Posted at 5:09PM on Apr 19th 2007 by Suzanne

1425.
Faye, I see what you mean, and I understand your concern. BUT,
Larry has aligned himself with Howard Stern, and I am afraid he also
signed agreements with him that his now fired attorney, Opri, was
totally opposed to. If Larry did sign agreements, many would say
that is not to the baby's best interests, and it connects Howard to
all estate interests and monies. Is THAT a good thing? They are
already saying the Will is a forgery. I respect established, honest,
and reliable trustees who have been trusted for years and are highly
respected. That is NOT Howard Stern, and there is a lot involved
that has already happened, remember?

I am disappointed that 1) Larry is in an association with
Howard, who fought the DNA, made fraudulent claims, and is
suspect 2) Larry is selling pictures of the baby, which is ok with
many, but I don't like the connotation 3) Larry and Virgie had an
agreement and understanding, which has not been honored, so
likely Virgie does not appreciate being totally blocked from seeing
the baby, and from not having any indication from Larry that he will
be a decent person and do the right thing.

Those are my thoughts, and I have never heard anything about the posters.
Maybe there is information to which we are not privy. I would like to
see this baby in a home situation that is stable, where her family
would be there with her 24-7, and where she would not be with a nanny
all the time while her father is on a trip on his job or out with social events.
And, using the baby to sell pictures for an additional livlihood is not an
appropriate option.

What good would it do for Mrs. Arthur to try to see the baby when Howard was loathsome enough to not even let her approach the baby? Larry is the father and he should have called her and invited her to see the baby. She is the grandmother, she wanted to be the grandmother, but now they have forced her to fight to see and be with her grandchild. Since Larry has behaved like this there is no way she can ever trust him now, and only by having legal recourse to see and be with the child will she ever be assured that she will be in the child's life. I think it is beyond belief that Anna's mother, and Daniel's grandmother, has been treated with such cruelty and total
disrespect. I think Howard Stern in all aspects is the worst person I have ever heard of for all he has done. And for Larry to say what a great and innocent person Howard is, after all that happened to Anna, and for Larry to say she brought all that happened on herself, puts Larry in a whole new
category.

One thing I know for sure, just because this baby is little and helpless
doesn't mean when she grows up she won't hate and despise the people
who victimized her mother, her brother, who mistreated her grandmother and who blocked her from seeing her. Mark my words there!

Posted at 9:06PM on Apr 19th 2007 by Suzanne